1 00:00:11,699 --> 00:00:08,820 okay yesterday we had this nice panel 2 00:00:14,940 --> 00:00:11,709 discussion and this question came up 3 00:00:17,999 --> 00:00:14,950 what may I study if I want to become an 4 00:00:21,900 --> 00:00:18,009 astrobiologist so we mentioned several 5 00:00:25,740 --> 00:00:21,910 fields like biology chemistry geology 6 00:00:28,109 --> 00:00:25,750 and engineering science but one field 7 00:00:32,940 --> 00:00:28,119 was missing and this is actually my 8 00:00:34,650 --> 00:00:32,950 field so geophysics and so I think I 9 00:00:38,700 --> 00:00:34,660 have to advertise a little bit for 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:38,710 geophysics in this field as a 11 00:00:46,020 --> 00:00:41,890 geophysicist you can basically come from 12 00:00:48,630 --> 00:00:46,030 two directions to astrobiology and the 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:48,640 one direction is the big topic 14 00:00:55,350 --> 00:00:52,690 habitability so what does a geophysicist 15 00:00:57,180 --> 00:00:55,360 have to do with habitability for example 16 00:01:01,650 --> 00:00:57,190 if you look at plate tectonics you can 17 00:01:03,540 --> 00:01:01,660 decide or you can find out y 0 SS plate 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:03,550 tectonics and why other planets do not 19 00:01:08,399 --> 00:01:05,290 have plate tectonics what about 20 00:01:10,950 --> 00:01:08,409 exoplanets what about big size planets 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:10,960 about five earth masses also does five 22 00:01:16,559 --> 00:01:13,530 earth-mass planet low plate tectonics 23 00:01:20,149 --> 00:01:16,569 what about volcanism is it more likely 24 00:01:23,249 --> 00:01:20,159 on bigger planets on smaller planets and 25 00:01:26,879 --> 00:01:23,259 is there enough outgassing for example 26 00:01:29,099 --> 00:01:26,889 to maintain an atmosphere at smaller 27 00:01:31,559 --> 00:01:29,109 sized planets like Mars like or even 28 00:01:34,679 --> 00:01:31,569 smaller so this is all about the 29 00:01:39,029 --> 00:01:34,689 habitability but you and we also saw a 30 00:01:41,849 --> 00:01:39,039 nice talk by lena a few minutes ago in 31 00:01:44,190 --> 00:01:41,859 this direction but it's not all about 32 00:01:46,230 --> 00:01:44,200 habitability you also can go from 33 00:01:51,059 --> 00:01:46,240 another direction and i will talk a 34 00:01:53,550 --> 00:01:51,069 little bit about it so if you have your 35 00:01:56,219 --> 00:01:53,560 model how's yours evolves with time 36 00:02:00,599 --> 00:01:56,229 starting with the origin of the earth 37 00:02:03,209 --> 00:02:00,609 and then you you put in all the 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:03,219 parameters and you start your in your 39 00:02:12,570 --> 00:02:07,090 model z us to evolve and you end up at 40 00:02:15,390 --> 00:02:12,580 present day earth and so all is nice but 41 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:15,400 if you know do the same thing again but 42 00:02:19,180 --> 00:02:18,370 switch some parameter off and you can 43 00:02:23,110 --> 00:02:19,190 have 44 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:23,120 this parameter you may find some 45 00:02:30,100 --> 00:02:26,210 parameter which is related to life so 46 00:02:33,610 --> 00:02:30,110 you may switch life off and you can find 47 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:33,620 out how the planet evolves and if you 48 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:35,930 now observe some exoplanets you can 49 00:02:44,230 --> 00:02:40,370 basically look at these differences and 50 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:44,240 may distinguish if it's related of life 51 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:46,910 is there life present or not and my talk 52 00:02:52,330 --> 00:02:49,850 is about this direction and basically 53 00:02:59,170 --> 00:02:52,340 it's about a continental crust 54 00:03:02,920 --> 00:02:59,180 production so so I start with a with the 55 00:03:04,450 --> 00:03:02,930 approach to form continental crust 56 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:04,460 continents are formed in subduction 57 00:03:09,700 --> 00:03:07,850 zones point is here yep continents are 58 00:03:12,490 --> 00:03:09,710 formed in subduction zones over here 59 00:03:15,580 --> 00:03:12,500 when water is present at depths and this 60 00:03:18,190 --> 00:03:15,590 is very important because it's not very 61 00:03:21,850 --> 00:03:18,200 clear how you can get water very deep 62 00:03:24,130 --> 00:03:21,860 and we have this oceanic crust which is 63 00:03:27,610 --> 00:03:24,140 abducted beneath the continental crust 64 00:03:36,010 --> 00:03:27,620 we have sediments which are subducted 65 00:03:38,050 --> 00:03:36,020 and now I can yeah and now how do you 66 00:03:40,570 --> 00:03:38,060 get this sediment the sediments are 67 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:40,580 basically from the continent by erosion 68 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:44,330 and there are several effects while life 69 00:03:51,970 --> 00:03:48,290 could affect this continental erosion 70 00:03:55,060 --> 00:03:51,980 rate by weathering processes and so you 71 00:03:56,770 --> 00:03:55,070 form the sedimentary layer and if you 72 00:03:59,470 --> 00:03:56,780 know look at very shallow depths the 73 00:04:03,310 --> 00:03:59,480 first few kilometers and before the 74 00:04:05,710 --> 00:04:03,320 metamorphic reaction take place you you 75 00:04:08,790 --> 00:04:05,720 have shallow dewatering and you will 76 00:04:12,009 --> 00:04:08,800 lose a lot of your water but if you have 77 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:12,019 sufficient amounts of clays in the 78 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:14,000 sediments which have low permeability 79 00:04:22,750 --> 00:04:17,810 you you can suppress some of these 80 00:04:25,540 --> 00:04:22,760 shallow dewatering and this will lead to 81 00:04:27,909 --> 00:04:25,550 a more available water in greater depth 82 00:04:31,300 --> 00:04:27,919 and it will enhance your continental 83 00:04:32,980 --> 00:04:31,310 production rate and also the mental 84 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:32,990 water regarding rate 85 00:04:41,980 --> 00:04:38,410 now as a geophysicist this in turn 86 00:04:44,950 --> 00:04:41,990 impacts the model because a mentor in 87 00:04:49,060 --> 00:04:44,960 the water in the mental reduces the 88 00:04:55,050 --> 00:04:49,070 viscosity of of the mantle convection 89 00:04:57,580 --> 00:04:55,060 and stuff like this so I sketched I I 90 00:05:00,340 --> 00:04:57,590 did not include any formulas in this 91 00:05:03,490 --> 00:05:00,350 presentation to not bore you with but i 92 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:03,500 just want to mention is a key link again 93 00:05:07,830 --> 00:05:05,810 so was increasing by bioactivity you 94 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:07,840 increase the continental erosion rate 95 00:05:14,170 --> 00:05:10,490 the thickness of the sedimentary layer 96 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:14,180 also the shallow dewatering decreases 97 00:05:19,420 --> 00:05:16,850 you have more water available in greater 98 00:05:21,580 --> 00:05:19,430 depth and it's enhanced the continental 99 00:05:24,910 --> 00:05:21,590 production and mentor gassing great so I 100 00:05:28,060 --> 00:05:24,920 just skip the rest of the model how I do 101 00:05:31,810 --> 00:05:28,070 it mathematically but show the results 102 00:05:33,340 --> 00:05:31,820 and what you see here is a face plan 103 00:05:35,410 --> 00:05:33,350 which is spent by the mental water 104 00:05:38,670 --> 00:05:35,420 concentration in the continental surface 105 00:05:41,110 --> 00:05:38,680 area and each dot in this phase plane is 106 00:05:43,390 --> 00:05:41,120 representative for one state where the 107 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:43,400 earth basically could be for example if 108 00:05:49,020 --> 00:05:46,370 you are here then your earth have a very 109 00:05:54,070 --> 00:05:49,030 wet mental and no continents at all and 110 00:05:56,740 --> 00:05:54,080 each point or in this red line shows a 111 00:05:58,540 --> 00:05:56,750 point where the continental surface area 112 00:06:01,390 --> 00:05:58,550 does not change with time anymore and 113 00:06:03,190 --> 00:06:01,400 the blue line shows each value whether a 114 00:06:05,290 --> 00:06:03,200 mental water concentration does not 115 00:06:08,740 --> 00:06:05,300 change with time so you got one point 116 00:06:10,750 --> 00:06:08,750 basically where two lines cross so you 117 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:10,760 got a stable fixed point over there and 118 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:12,890 now independently from where you start 119 00:06:17,860 --> 00:06:14,690 in the neighborhood you always will run 120 00:06:21,370 --> 00:06:17,870 into the stable fixed point about forty 121 00:06:24,070 --> 00:06:21,380 percent continental coverage as we are 122 00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:24,080 also observe them on earth and this self 123 00:06:33,250 --> 00:06:28,310 consistent result of the model and now 124 00:06:36,850 --> 00:06:33,260 you can have three fourths that is not a 125 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:36,860 nice table because the transition to 126 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:41,570 this neck but you can see we are here so 127 00:06:46,719 --> 00:06:46,010 we have 4.5 billions of years and we are 128 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:46,729 by 129 00:06:54,459 --> 00:06:49,490 we have a biotic continental Rosen rate 130 00:06:58,540 --> 00:06:54,469 and now I can just go from from this to 131 00:07:00,850 --> 00:06:58,550 here to to go to an abiotic planet and 132 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:00,860 you can see how the face plant shifts 133 00:07:07,209 --> 00:07:05,210 and first of all you see that the the 134 00:07:09,339 --> 00:07:07,219 stable fixed point moves up because the 135 00:07:11,619 --> 00:07:09,349 continental erosion rate decreases and 136 00:07:14,769 --> 00:07:11,629 so you can end up with more continents 137 00:07:17,890 --> 00:07:14,779 but at the same time you see that the 138 00:07:22,089 --> 00:07:17,900 second stable fixed point evolves with 139 00:07:24,129 --> 00:07:22,099 very tiny continent and a very low 140 00:07:26,170 --> 00:07:24,139 mentor water concentration and now 141 00:07:28,779 --> 00:07:26,180 suddenly depends where you start because 142 00:07:30,579 --> 00:07:28,789 you can also run into this stable fixed 143 00:07:32,799 --> 00:07:30,589 point with very low meant for water 144 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:32,809 concentration and continents and so 145 00:07:42,249 --> 00:07:35,529 where did you end up and this is why I 146 00:07:45,309 --> 00:07:42,259 started at zero Giga years so just 147 00:07:47,950 --> 00:07:45,319 videos developed and how the phase plane 148 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:47,960 looks like for an abiotic earth and I 149 00:07:54,129 --> 00:07:52,490 just move up and I start with 300 ppm 150 00:07:56,050 --> 00:07:54,139 enter water concentration and without 151 00:07:58,149 --> 00:07:56,060 continents and here you see all the 152 00:08:02,829 --> 00:07:58,159 continental growth rate evolves with 153 00:08:04,420 --> 00:08:02,839 time and I've I just go up and you see 154 00:08:06,399 --> 00:08:04,430 all the phase plane shifts and how the 155 00:08:09,969 --> 00:08:06,409 continental surface area of all this 156 00:08:12,670 --> 00:08:09,979 time and you see that you will end up or 157 00:08:15,429 --> 00:08:12,680 some terminate at this lower stable 158 00:08:20,199 --> 00:08:15,439 fixed point without your with a ten 159 00:08:29,649 --> 00:08:20,209 percent continent coverage and a more or 160 00:08:33,189 --> 00:08:29,659 less dry mental yeah but it's okay you 161 00:08:36,939 --> 00:08:33,199 can do the same again and suddenly you 162 00:08:40,180 --> 00:08:36,949 can for at one billions of years you can 163 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:40,190 switch on life in the model and so you 164 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:46,130 basically go from up to down by ya ever 165 00:08:51,009 --> 00:08:49,250 increasing the the continental Rosen 166 00:08:58,780 --> 00:08:51,019 rate and you see how the phase plane 167 00:09:00,700 --> 00:08:58,790 shift and then you you start your yeah 168 00:09:04,750 --> 00:09:00,710 you run your you continue to run your 169 00:09:09,820 --> 00:09:04,760 and you see how suddenly the whole 170 00:09:11,410 --> 00:09:09,830 system evolves into the this stable 171 00:09:13,660 --> 00:09:11,420 fixed point above there and you will 172 00:09:16,300 --> 00:09:13,670 also terminate there and you see how the 173 00:09:19,690 --> 00:09:16,310 continental surface area evolves with 174 00:09:22,660 --> 00:09:19,700 time and so this is my conclusion that 175 00:09:25,570 --> 00:09:22,670 life that there is our ways where life 176 00:09:28,750 --> 00:09:25,580 impact continental growth and we also 177 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:28,760 find it founded transition that you may 178 00:09:33,970 --> 00:09:31,490 end up at this stable fixed point with 179 00:09:38,590 --> 00:09:33,980 low continental surface area and may 180 00:09:43,590 --> 00:09:38,600 evolve with the origin of life to thirty 181 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:43,600 five percent and continents in turn 182 00:09:48,940 --> 00:09:46,850 helps life again because they have a 183 00:09:51,250 --> 00:09:48,950 solar energy as they helped us harvest 184 00:09:54,850 --> 00:09:51,260 solar energy because they got direct 185 00:09:57,490 --> 00:09:54,860 access to to this processor so there's a 186 00:09:59,710 --> 00:09:57,500 feedback again and we can ask ourselves 187 00:10:02,380 --> 00:09:59,720 whether our life always change the 188 00:10:06,010 --> 00:10:02,390 planet in this way that the amount of 189 00:10:14,980 --> 00:10:06,020 available energy is maximized and I want 190 00:10:33,940 --> 00:10:14,990 to end with the sexy do we have any 191 00:10:41,180 --> 00:10:38,780 no what I did take into account is that 192 00:10:44,780 --> 00:10:41,190 if you have a lot of water and you 193 00:10:48,340 --> 00:10:44,790 mentally or viscosity decreases and with 194 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:48,350 decreasing viscosity your convection is 195 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:52,290 faster and with faster convection also 196 00:10:59,840 --> 00:10:55,410 the subduction goes faster so and and 197 00:11:02,540 --> 00:10:59,850 this in turn also is rated that that the 198 00:11:04,970 --> 00:11:02,550 surface is that that you cannot lose so 199 00:11:09,530 --> 00:11:04,980 much water and so on and also the 200 00:11:11,090 --> 00:11:09,540 temperatures I am I included that at the 201 00:11:18,980 --> 00:11:11,100 beginning of the earth it's very hot and 202 00:11:21,500 --> 00:11:18,990 stuff it at how many points in time can 203 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:21,510 you turn on life and still wind up with 204 00:11:28,010 --> 00:11:23,130 an appropriate amount of continental 205 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:28,020 surface area authorial kind of good what 206 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:29,850 is the range of times where you can turn 207 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:32,250 life on in your models to wind up with 208 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:34,110 the right amount of continental area ah 209 00:11:39,740 --> 00:11:37,410 you mean at one billions of years or 210 00:11:47,570 --> 00:11:39,750 right yeah how far can you lose that um 211 00:11:51,579 --> 00:11:47,580 its relative robust so I I can turn it 212 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:51,589 off just at the beginning of the OC us 213 00:11:57,650 --> 00:11:54,690 but but you're right if I turn it too 214 00:11:59,810 --> 00:11:57,660 late on then you will evolve into the 215 00:12:02,960 --> 00:11:59,820 first ever fixed point with the lowest 216 00:12:05,420 --> 00:12:02,970 continental surface area I did not find 217 00:12:07,370 --> 00:12:05,430 out where the transition asst but there 218 00:12:14,570 --> 00:12:07,380 will be some transition over there all